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Post by Ildûrest on Jan 31, 2006 12:56:37 GMT
Well, I've made this script called Ithié. In my imaginary world, it's used by many people in different ways. The basis is zero, one or two consonants on a "stick" with an optional vowel beneath them. The side of the "stick" the consonants appear on dictates whether the consonant is voiced or unvoiced.
The normal English "w" and "y" sounds are considered vowel-modifiers, and can come before or after vowels.
It is extremely reductionist and absolutely phonetic. American English would be quite differently 'spelt' to British English (mainly in vowel sounds of course).
Speaking of which, Earl's pronunciation of Latin isn't all that accurate. It's pretty good as anglicised Latin, but it's not the real thing. I'm no expert, but I have learnt Latin for four years, and I can speak some Italian. My pronounciation of all languages that I have studied is excellent. Certainly I don't wish to put Earl down, just to give him a better knowledge of what he is doing.
Anyway it's almost midnight and my parents are out for my blood. Well, no, they just want me to sleep. So I shall.
I hope I'll get to talk to you tomorrow!
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Post by earlofqb on Jan 31, 2006 23:51:58 GMT
Oi! I heard that, and it was well. I never said that it was latin. I just said that it was latin-based, and that it was used only for pronunciation. Anglicized Latin might be the basis that is used, I don't know. I just know that it sounds a lot like what was spoken in my Spanish classes (of which I didn't do too well in, showing just how little I know  ). Also, I never said I wrote it (unless you're using Earl to refer to Dr. ERE), just that I'm attempting (note: attempting) to learn it. So far, I've found it difficult to speak in, however I theorize that when one masters it, one should be able to quickly learn English, Spanish, Italian, or Portuguese very easily, and German somewhat easier. So, something in Ithie (I don't know how to do them thar fancy symbolicized letterings) would be something similar to how English is currently spoken, although vastly different rules (well, not really, just vowel modifiers are changed around and obviously the vocabulary would have different meanings). I look forward to some examples, as this continues to intrigue me. |
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Post by Mikrondel on Feb 1, 2006 9:16:00 GMT
I think you don't understand what Ithié is. It's just a way of writing. Based on the sounds of words. Not a language at all. In fact, in this imaginary world of mine, it's used as a standard script for several languages - some more appropriately than others. I've applied it to French and Polish somewhat, as well. So you cannot say it has a vocabulary. Languages that I am trying to create are a completely different matter. But more on that later (perhaps). Here is a sample of Ithié:  It reads, more or less, "Mikrondel Artelius Addoel". (That's as close as English gets to it, anyway.) And now I shall leave you to ponder the great mysteries of Ithié, while I get back to pressing schoolwork. ['é' is produced using Alt+130 (on numpad) - You can always copy--paste it, or use the Windows Character Map, which should be under Accessories/System Tools] |
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Post by earlofqb on Feb 2, 2006 1:42:13 GMT
The message didn't load, so I can't see your example. Thus, I cannot comment further.
Let's test out the mysterious e character: é (yay, it works!). Learning is fun!
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Post by Ildûrest on Feb 2, 2006 11:00:06 GMT
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Post by earlofqb on Feb 4, 2006 0:11:59 GMT
The link worked. It's an intriguing thing, and I almost didn't understand it until I read this:
It does make sense now, although as I'm not familiar with Asian-style characters, so hopefully you won't expect me to use it any time soon (lol). Is there a certain alphabet to it, or something else? Perhaps it'd be better to ask, can I use a more English style to it (because as far as I know, you can't type those characters on a standard keyboard)?
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Post by Ildûrest on Feb 4, 2006 2:14:08 GMT
Asian-Style? I'd have said it looks runic. It's certainly not based on any Asian characters. You can more or less get it out with a fixed-width font.
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Would be "Mikrondel" I reckon it's very easy to learn. Currently it's completely untypable (Come on, I invented it!) but that may change when I write a nice QB program to help with that. But it's much better handwritten  That example is almost enough for you to work out how the language works. Just read my first post about consonants and vowels, and match them up in the examples! I think I'll write up a 'letter'-table soon and put it up on my website. The consonants are basically OK, however the vowels are tough to explain. In fact I won't bother with them until later, because the whole difference in accents thing is a big stumbling block in itself. |
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Post by Mikrondel on Feb 4, 2006 11:35:42 GMT
Well, I did it before I thought I would. Be sure to FEEDBACK ME!! www.autopack.com/aleks/Ithie/For the record, that image was made entirely in GIMP. |
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Post by mopsy on Feb 8, 2006 4:23:55 GMT
This is slightly off topic but have you everthought of doing anything with the language and the world? You seem to have an extremly complete vision and I think given the proper tools (Qbasic mayhaps) you could make somthing very interesting. A MUD maybe?
Just a thought, I would look forward to you're end product and would be happy to beta test!
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Post by Mikrondel on Feb 8, 2006 6:01:33 GMT
WHAT LANGUAGE? I've said so many times, it's not a language!!
And no, no game, no MUD. Maybe a good ol' fashioned story. Actually, not maybe, there already is a story. Not complete, but a couple chapters out of the way.
Yeah, I just think MUDs corrupt something too much. Perhaps interactive fiction would work, but I don't think I'll try. Not on this one.
Howe'er, if you wish to visit a chatroom (or MSN Mess) and explore this world by telling me what you want to do, I'd love that. If you've never tried such a thing, I advise you do. It's fun!
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Post by mopsy on Feb 8, 2006 15:28:29 GMT
Sorry, I skimed the post and didn't fully read. Lack of somthing or another. Assumptions and such.
By interactive fiction you mean what exactly? The first thing that pops into mind is a text game but as you said, no game.
I am quite interested in exploring the world.. And I zone out and lose my train of thought. Imm a just post this up now.
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Post by Ildûrest on Feb 9, 2006 6:52:15 GMT
Interactive fiction as in Text Game. Correctus.
I wasn't annoyed or anything about the language business; just using mock frustration. (Should have put an emote in there or something)
Anyway, yes. Evidently we're going to have timezone troubles if we want to get into some kind of instant chat, but we should be able to find SOME time. Perhaps on the weekend.
I'm off to dinner. Bye!
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Post by mopsy on Feb 10, 2006 3:09:38 GMT
Haha... Me find time? I have nothing but! Timezones, as you said, are going to be an issue. I think you are 16 or so hours ahead of me. I'm not sure exactly though. I'm on PST or GMT - 8 which ever is easier for you to convert.
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Post by Mikrondel on Feb 10, 2006 9:25:36 GMT
I'm on GMT+10. The time you made that last post was my 8 AM. (Proboards adjusts times to fit your local timezone ) Perhaps I can catch you around that time tomorrow. I'm usually up before then. My MSN Messenger account is budzynowski [at] hotmail removethis [dot] com (I've made it spammer-resistant, I hope that what it should be is obvious) If you don't have MSN, try Clicking "Run" under your start menu and typing Telnet www.autopack.com 9202 It'll connect you to a crappy little chat server I wrote. Slightly annoying (in that you normally can't see what you type until you press enter), but still usable and works real-time. And needs no special client program! (Anyone else who reads this in time can come along too- I'll leave it on for a while, even if mopsy has MSN Mess) |
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Post by mopsy on Feb 10, 2006 15:19:15 GMT
Reply #12 on Today at 3:09am That's what it's saying about my last post and I wasn't up at 3 in the morning. I'll look at the prefrences and see if I can fix it. I do have MSN but I think I might look at the chat thinger just to see what other's around me can do. As I'm (probably) going to school today I wont be home till 2:30 or so. Though tomorrow is going to be the best for me as I'll be home all day. Thursday is normally the only weekday I have going on but that's subject to change. (blinks) In short, weekends are good and MSN is my buddy. And because I felt the need   |
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Post by Ildûrest on Feb 10, 2006 23:26:15 GMT
Well, me is going now. I'll leave the chat server on so you can see what it's like.
Catch you later, I hope
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Post by mopsy on Feb 11, 2006 6:26:37 GMT
I'm so lost. You two post like you're one person and I'm not sure if you are or aren't and yeah. I'm lost. (blinks)
And because I don't like to spam I'm just going to edit this in...
I was rereading all of this (I guess I should say reading but whatever) and I went to the site and I saw that the vowels weren't there. Is there anyway you could make them modifiable? Like with consanats (excuse spelling) I can convert the words to a local... (can't think of the word, accent isn't right) accent I guess.
I realize this is more than difficult and that you have more important things but I think it'd be cool to have a forum in Ithié, though it might get confusing.
Just my rambelings (again with the spelling I just woke up)
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Post by Homeloaf on Feb 14, 2006 23:09:39 GMT
HAHAHA! You guys actually do homework. Not me!!! Of course, I live in Myrtle Point. I pull straight As. The teachers don't actually grade you.
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